Maybe ditch the whole exploration aspect of the ship and focus more on the medic theme? Make it a sort of medic BLOps with a jump drive, RR bonuses, ship refitting, and able to fit command links? Like a mobile triage base or something?

You are joking, but this at least would give the ship a (stupid) purpose. The way it is now, I would name my own vanity Nestor "The Flying Coffin".

It looks like a Jack of all trades, master of none. Or better, a Jack of some trades, expert of none.

500% multiplies the cloaked velocity (Which is less then blackops get with blackops L5)

If you don't understand why a fully covert battleship is massivley overpowered you need to consider what you would be able to do with it OUTSIDE of exploration

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Second, It's really not getting a covert cloak . This is an extremely powerful capability and it's possible that it should stay off limits for battleships completely. On top of that, if there was going to be a covert battleship, black ops is where we need to start. We will be looking at them for a balance pass eventually, they are one of the remaining classes that haven't gotten their tiericide pass yet, and we can approach this topic when that happens.

There is currently no ship in EVE that has a jump drive and a covert ops cloak. The BLOPS ships can't fit a covert cloak, only a normal cloak, though they do get a speed bonus while cloaked they are not capable of warping while cloaked and that's the big issue.

No BS can currently warp while cloaked and I believe it should stay that way.

A covops cloak would be too strong on a battleship.

We have enough cloaks. I don't see the real benefit or need for it. I'd love to hear the reason why besides (getting from point a to b in low/null).

Whats the upgrade reason for an explorer to jump into a battleship capable of it?

yahh vulnerable with a mjd that goes off in 9secs and puts him 100km away. especially with spare highs capable of housing heavy neuts, able to shut down scrams + loads of mids for webs and scrams to pin down any tackle and more effectively apply DPS.

stop wasting peoples time.

I like that idea a lot, actually- instant MJD, but no cloak.... hmmm.

Agreed. As a matter of fact, I think people are missing what SoE ships are all about. They're about long deeps space authonomous exploration. The reason Astero and Stratios have cloaks is because their counterparts have them, but that's not what the ships are about.

How did our orca travel 35 jumps through 0.0. Scouted!

How is Nestor Scouted? By Astero and Stratios.

Scouting is so awesome!

And since astero and Stratios can be around get rid of the scanning crap on nestor hull without any replacement!

if you think the covert cloak on a battleship, even if it aligns faster, is the way to get around a gate camps you are wrong.
A jumpdrive is...

The thing is, we already just pack our stuff into a carrier and do just that.

Not quite what I ment. Every pirate ship line has a certain theme to it. Serpentis ships are the absolute ultimate in brawling technology, Blood Raider ships are the masters of cap warfare, Angels bring incredibly fast ships. This all goes with the general theme of their faction. Sisters are primarily a charity and exploration faction, therefore their theme lines up with that. Drones and lasers are chosen specifically to make them independant from ammo resupplies, whereas the virus and scan bonuses play on the exploration part. Cloak plays a secondary role in this - Astero and Stratios have it because they need it, Nestor does not.

maybe like this:
[url]http://www.imagebanana.com/view/mejsr4op/Nestor.jpg[/url]Nestor

You would still require the support skills to use the jump drive and portal. The only difference being that you would be paying an extra billion to use this without having to train BLOPs ship skill. Seems fair to me.

Do you really think that people will spend 1-2 bil for a mediocre logi battleship? I mean ffs the ship costs as much as an archon! Meanwhile Guardians are a superlative logi alternative in a much lower price range. Maybe I'm dumb, but I just don't see it.

Could you perhaps elaborate on how you see this ship being used (preferably with specific examples)?

Never underestimate the power of stupidity.... jsut because is not wise, doe snto mean people will not do it.

Its not wise to run missions while not blitzing, still the majority of players do it.

It's not getting a Covert Ops cloaking deviceGǪ It should be immediately apparent that the only battleship that may (emphasis on "may") be able to run one down the road is Black Ops.

Compare the stats of the Nestor to any of the Black Ops and let me know in which area Black Ops are overpowered...

Do that and you accomplished nothing to add for the exploration niche. Trying to hide a battleship during travel is a stupid idea. Especially after the warp changes.

BATTLEship... means BATTLE.. emans no GUNs is wrong conceptually :P

there is no way the Nestor is getting a covops cloak so can we drop it please and focus on what we can improve?

By request I'm posting to say the ship isn't going to have any changes before 1.1

We want to see what activity looks like the way it is currently and make adjustments after. I'd also really like to look at finding ways to drop sisters ships outside of LP so that we can have some effect on the price in a way other than lowering the LP cost, but I'm not sure when we can get that figured out and implemented.

Makes sense actually. ECM should counter Gallente ships well and it really counters everything except Gallente main strength.

Ya because Missiles and Drones ships get impacted by Tracking Disruptors. BC, BS, Caps all feel the sting from Target Painters. Drone Boats and Missile Chuckers suffer from Nos/Neut.